All right,
fine. True confession time: why I didn't want to talk about this, why I'm glad I'm a feminazi, and why I'm going to talk about it now (in a nutshell, because I just love blogging about my own assholishness).
When I initially heard the Polanski news, I was at my boyfriend's. He, way more than I, is a literary/artistic snob with, like, good taste in movies and books and egghead shit like that, and so I actually noted the news as "huh, I'll have to mention that to M., he'll find it interesting." I sort of vaguely remembered that Polanski had been arrested at some point in my childhood for sex with a minor and that it had been sort of a scandal and he'd moved to Europe, where they're more tolerant of These Things, but I didn't remember (maybe I never really knew) any details one way or the other.
Now, in addition to being a culture snob, M. is also (and I frequently underestimate this characteristic of his, both because I'm totally male-identified and because he abhors a scold even more than I do) probably the least pornulated person I know well: for example, he saw the movie M*A*S*H for the first time a couple weeks ago, and told me afterwards how completely grossed out he was at the sexual hijinks of the male characters w/r/t eavesdropping on Hotlips, harassing her, and so on. Which to be honest, that stuff just doesn't bug me in a visceral way like that: I mean, yes, it's sexual harassment and that sort of "Porky's" humor is kind of stupid and unfunny, but it doesn't squee me out, it just makes me roll my eyes. But he's really squeed out by the socially normed male gaze thing where
women are basically objects and men's sexuality is beyond their control and boys will be boys and yeah it probably sucks to be a porn actress but porn gets me hott and me and my cock are the center of the universe. Bitch.All of which I mention purely as background to my initial reaction. Basically I said "oh, Polanski got arrested today," and he said "huh," and I said "god, I'm going to have to blog about this" with much the same oh-christ-here-we-go-again attitude that makes me roll my eyes at moviefied frat boy hijinks. Reflecting back, nothing I was thinking of really reflect well on me.
(1) M., being an aesthete and connoisseur, probably digs Polanski;
(2) that Polanski thing was a looooong time ago, and moral/sex scandals are usually really tiresomely based on Righteous Indignation and who gives a fuck, really, what people do sexually;
(3) the feminist blogosphere (TM) is now going to spend the next month having to explain that Rape is Bad, and I don't really feel the need or desire to get wrapped around the axle making that point.
M., actually, didn't have much response to that; probably he was horrified at my blase attitude because, being a culture snob (and better read than I am, plus he's like 150 years old) he surely knew/remembered the details of the case and thought I was being a flippant dummy. Or maybe because he doesn't actually give two shits about blogosphere shitstorms as a general rule, who knows. Or maybe because he was thinking about what he was going to cook for dinner.
Anyhoo, so then I fly home and check back in with The Internets and everyone and their dog is Making Statements Against Polanski. At least, in my corner of the internets they are. And I'm thinking yeah yeah, okay, so rape is bad and evading justice is bad and can we move on now and not be scandalized by a 30-year old sex scandal?
But I'm also thinking, to be quite frank, that I do *not* want to talk about this thing, because I *do* find it boring and sort of shrill and I hate being boring, but I also, to tell the truth? do not want to get into some situation where I'm accused of being a rape apologist for saying so. So fuck it, We Are Not Blogging This.
And then it turns out that Sybil is Outraged.
And I think, aw, fuck. I hate being boring, but I also hate playing the Blog Boss. But I also think, in the back of my mind, "huh. Sybil is not usually knee-jerk or shrill about stupid shit." And this, I think, opens up a chink in the luxurious drapery of the boudoir of my ennui, and somehow the detail that at the time of this vaguely-remembered sex scandal the victim was 13 and Polanski was 43.
And I think, okay. That's actually pretty gross, and not just some humorless American scandal about people having sex outside of missionary-approved suburban marriage. I guess it's a good thing he finally got arrested.
So having figured that out, I then start paying enough attention to learn, or be reminded of, the sordid details (which as everyone knows by now, would really be seen as total overkill if this were a movie: we Get It, Already, Mr. Director! Your Villian is a Very Evil Man! So
very non-auterish, this need to bludgeon us all over the head just in case we didn't understand that a 43-year old man fucking a 13-year old girl is like, rape, have some respect for your audience's intelligence for god's sake).
Now, I'm still thinking I don't really want to blog it or have the blog blog it, because okay, it's not just some boring tiresome ancient history shrillness but it's still really rather obvious, so, meh. I'm also thinking that I'm glad that, even when I'm sort of rolling my eyes at it, I care enough about The Feminist Opinion to have refrained from pooh-poohing the thing because fuck Polanski, I don't care how old he is, this isn't some Persecution of Those Who Are Different and Outre, this is a rape case and what an asshole.
But then, since now I'm actually clear enough on the situation to be vaguely curious about why people are defending him, I click on
this link (Whoopi Goldberg saying "it wasn't rape rape.") And watching it, I'm thinking, okay Whoopi. *Maybe* you also don't remember the case very well (she does actually say she doesn't remember the details). But presumably, if you all are talking about this on your show, you know that the girl was 13.
Thirteen. (Sherri Shepherd does point this out a few minutes later.) And for fuck's sake, you're excusing that? In public??
So, yeah.
Conclusions:
1. Seriously, yay feminism, for serving as a check even for idiots like me who aren't instinctively squeed by this sort of thing (blah blah social norms and the cultural memory of a man raping a 13-year old as "some kind of sex scandal," a point that
Robert Halford did an excellent job of explaining in a comment thread at EotAW). Let that be a lesson to those who think feminism "goes a bit too far sometimes" that y'know, thinking that might really be a sign of your own ignorance and/or cultural bias.
2. My boyfriend is a better person than I am, and also a better person than I sometimes give him credit for. I suck. But I have good taste in men. (Mr. B., also, being a better person than me/better than I give him credit for. In some ways.)
3. I honestly feel like this is sort of an "aha" moment about why "those crazy right-wing conservatives" are instinctively squeed by (a) hollywood liberals; (b) "cultural elites"; (c) the French. Because . . .
4. . . . being a mama matters. Finding out that the Polanski's victim was 13, I had kind of a weird realization that on the one hand, knowing 13-year olds, I know that they are *clearly* not adults and no, fucking them is not okay. Especially for someone who, at the time, was
older than I am now. Seriously: I have taught 13 year olds. I see them every day at PK's school (which runs K-8). And they are *children*.
Now that said, sure: I also remember being 13 myself, and being a sexual person, and I don't think that being children means that 13-year olds (or 9-year olds, or 3-year olds) are, or should be, asexual. If a couple of 13 year olds are experimenting with sex, I hope to god no one ends up pregnant.* And I hope that one or both of them has
someone a little older** to check in with --an aunt, a college-aged sibling,
Scarleteen. So yeah, I can see why someone who identifies as "liberal", especially about sexual issues, doesn't want to automatically assume that "sex with someone underage"--even when underage is 13--is a Very Bad Thing. And given that I don't automatically assume that 13-year olds Should Never Be Having Sex!!!, sure, I can see how someone with a vague grasp of the situation and a preference to err on the side of sexual tolerance would think, eh, maybe not such a big deal.
Which I think is sort of
the issue that we, as a culture, are still really struggling over when it comes to arguments about sexual morality: if you imagine a 13-year old having sex, is your instinctive reaction, absent any other information, "Oh Hell No" or is it "well, it depends"? If it's the former, then it's quite likely that the second group offends you; if the latter, it's probable that the former seems rigid. Even if (like most people) you would be inclined, given further details, to shift your initial reaction one way or the other, you're still likely, I suspect, to find people who are initially in the other camp somewhat untrustworthy.
And we want to feel like we can trust people when it comes to sex. Especially when it comes to sex with 13-year olds. (I want to make it clear that I really think that the root reason why Polanski
raped that girl, rather than just "had sex with" her, is that yes, she was 13 and he was 43. And I suspect that most people who feel firmly that Polanski was a bad man think the same thing--that it wasn't the alcohol, or the drugs, or even the "no" that are
the salient issue, but that enormous, enormous age gap. Yes, it would have been rape if she was 40 and he was 43 and she'd said no--or been drunk/drugged--but I don't think we'd be
quite as shocked that some folks want to give him the benefit of the doubt.) So feeling like we can't trust "the other side" on the question of 13-year old sexuality feels extremely threatening and dangerous.
Which I guess means that, as usual, I've managed to justify myself yet again. My initial reactions and thoughts about this topic were all wrong; but my sense that I ought to maybe keep my mouth shut and not wade into the argument saved me from saying something that I would have seriously come to regret.
*Not because pregnancy is wrong. I do, actually, really object to the way a lot of folks seem to assume as a matter of fact that teenagers, even young teenagers, Shouldn't Be Parents Ever. That said, the vast majority of 13 year olds are not physically mature, making pregnancy and delivery at that young an age actually comparatively risky relative to even 2-3 years later, and I don't think that 13-year olds really are emotionally equipped to deal with the extreme social pressures of being a Teen Parent, whether or not they would, in a perfect world, be fairly decent parents to their own children.
**Who, obviously, isn't the person they're fucking. Not because fucking someone older is always and inherently wrong--although yes, if we're talking 13 v 43, it is--but because the older person should be someone who doesn't have a personal interest in the relationship itself; someone for whom the emotional (and physical) well-being of the 13-year old, not their own sexual/emotional needs, is the main issue.
Labels: mememe, rape, stupid shitstorms