Suddenly I find myself having Talks with PK about Becoming an Adult. Not discussions about sex, which have been part of our relationship pretty much since he was old enough to speak. I mean discussions about the social trials and tribulations of pubescence. Which are kind of interesting to have with him, because so many of them are about gender roles in some kind of fucked-up ways, and it requires some thought to walk that feminist line with a male child. But I"m doing my best.
Part of why these convos are happening now may be because his school goes K-8, so he actually knows a number of middle-school kids, and because of the social norms of this school, the older kids have kind of a tolerant and sometimes indulgent attitude towards the younger ones. Which is, I think, as it should be; I'm happy about this aspect of his school. He's got the funny little kid thing going, where he'll occasionally say "teeangers are so weird, I'll *never* think that dressing like that/smoking/that kind of music" is cool--but at the same time, he sort of looks up to the older kids.
But I suspect the convos would be happening anyway as he's getting older, because he has a pretty adolescent sensibility already. He's not steeped in the elementary-boy culture of superheros! and guns! and dudeness! nearly as much as a lot of his peers, but his peers *are* that way. Plus he admires badass contrarianism as a general concept (which helps him negotiate the not-being-steeped-in-dudeness thing while still being cool enough for school, thankfully): his favorite pop culture icons these days are
"Yahtzee," whose video game reviews absolutely crack him up, and Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which we're watching with him these days (he's seen everything through season five, and I'm sort of not pushing to move on to the next season b/c I'm not sure he's ready to deal with the Spike/Buffy s&m thing or the extreme misogyny of the villiain in season seven).
(Given those particular pop culture favs, I'm half-amused and half-embarrassed to report that he's totally affecting working-class Britishisms: so-and-so is "just thick," and the other day he called out to our 80-something neighbor, "oi, Mrs. Graves!" Hilarious, but I really hope he grows out of this before high school or his ability to negotiate mainstream American boy culture is going to decline steeply. Plus he'll be insufferable.)
A couple of days ago he and I were waiting for takeaway in a Thai restaurant, and they had the television above the bar tuned to some CSI or other kind of cop/law show, I dunno what all those shows are on tv these days. (And get offa my lawn.) PK's watching it, and of course he has questions.
"Mama, is it really legal to interrogate someone?"
"Well, yes, but look PK, here's the deal. You are absolutely not required to answer questions from the police, ever. So yes, they can arrest people and ask them questions, but the people don't have to answer, and in fact it is generally a good idea not to answer questions from the police without a lawyer."
"Unless you're innocent."
"Well, no. Even if you're innocent, sometimes people say things that make the police
think they're guilty. The best thing to do, innocent or not, is to say that you won't answer any questions without talking to a lawyer first."
While I'm saying this I'm thinking, wow, how weird is it that I'm advising my eight-year old about the importance of lawyering up rather than taking the "police are here to help us" angle? But the fact is that PK is a boy, and a mouthy, contrarian one to boot, even though at the same time he's quite cognizant of rules and authority and I can all too easily see him both mouthing off to and being intimidated by cops.
So I say to him. "Look. Obviously if you see something bad happen, like that time we saw a bad car accident, it's okay to answer the questions the police ask about what happened. People who know something about a crime should help the police solve it."
PK: "Unless the person who did the crime says they'll, like, kill you if you answer questions." Me: "Well, in that case the police need to be able to promise to keep you safe, but no, you should still tell them, although of course you want to make sure they're guaranteeing to protect you beforehand.
"But here's the deal, kiddo: a lot of times, cops don't really like teenagers much, and you'll be a teenager someday, and you need to know how to deal with the police if you ever get into trouble."
"Why don't the police like teeangers?"
"Well, teenagers can be kind of smartassed. You're already kind of smartassed, right? And you know how sometimes it pisses grownups off. You're a little kid now, and most grownups will sort of let you get away with a certain amount of that b/c you're a little kid and they figure you don't know any better, but as you get older people start expecting you to know better, like is already happening.
"Plus some grownups, frankly, are just bullies and jerks. And it's sad, but sometimes people who sort of like pushing other people around take jobs where they have authority, like cops--heck, so far all your teachers are really good, but once in a while even teachers are bullies b/c they like pushing kids around. Or coaches."
"Or even some parents."
"Yes, exactly. Plus the police often have to deal with people who are trying to get away with things, and that can make you really pretty impatient and suspicious of people generally. So even cops who aren't bullies and jerks often don't really want to put up with a lot of backtalk or whatever.
"So the thing is, you are not legally required to answer their questions. And they can't legally search your house or your car without either a warrant, which they have to get from a judge, or a reasonable suspicion that there's something happening
right now that's an emergency."
"Like, if they think someone is about to be killed in your house, they can go in without a warrant, but basically they have to have a good reason."
"Right. But even though you don't have to let them do stuff, you also should
always be respectful about it because even if they aren't legally entitled to make you do stuff, they might try anyway. And if push comes to shove, you might be right, but they still have a gun and a badge and a club, and you really don't want to piss them off even if you're right."
"Mama, did you ever get bullied by the cops?"
"Well, there was this one time."
[I'm not going to bother to write it down; it's a boring story. - ed.] "But generally, and I know this sucks, but I'm a girl. And most police officers are men, and a lot of them can be a little bit sexist. So there's this thing that I call the 'pretty girl discount,' which means basically that if you are a pretty girl--and I'm lucky enough that for most of my life I've been pretty enough to get away with this--you can get away with things if you are respectful and cute and act nicey-nice. So like sometimes I've been pulled over for speeding, and I'm all 'oh, I'm so sorry officer!' and he'll go 'that's okay, I'll just give you a warning," and I haven't gotten a ticket."
"I can't decide if that's totally unfair or if it's kind of cool."
"It is totally unfair. But I admit it's kind of cool if you can take advantage of it. But you, PK, are not a pretty girl, and because many cops are kind of sexist, if anything they're going to be more likely to be jerky with you because you're a boy and they might want to be kind of macho and push you around like they're competing with you. So like I say, as you get older, you need to know your rights, but you also need to know how not to get yourself in trouble."
Then I went on to tell him about
this incident.
On the Other HandA couple of nights ago I answer the phone. PK hears me saying "oh yuck!" and asks what the call's about.
"Actually, I need to talk to you about this anyway. So that was one of those recorded calls from the school district saying that there's some guy who's been hanging out as kids walk to and from school, and he's like opening his pants or something to show middle-school girls his penis." My tone here is more eye-rolling 'ew, how gross' than worried mama, so as not to freak PK out.
"Ew! How gross!" says PK.
"Yeah, totally. Anyway, so look, if you happen to see someone hanging out around the school in a silver car or a black SUV--and I know that everyone drives black SUVs, so this hardly narrows anything down--but if you happen to see someone, you know, acting weird, or you think something looks funny, then you should tell the teachers, okay? And I know you're not quite middle-school age yet, but you know, just in case. Plus of course you don't want him bugging the other kids."
"Plus I'm not a girl."
"Well, but a stranger just seeing you walk by on the street might not know that."
"Good point."
As long as my son's answer to "you look like a girl" is calm acknowledgement rather than a huge freakout, I feel like I'm doing something right.
Labels: adolescence, cops, masculinity, parenting, Pseudonymous Kid