Transcript of a convo between me and
Phutatorius' Chestnut (who may or may not be blogging at
Is There No Sin In It?, it's kinda hard to tell).
Me: may i solicit your expert opinion on something?
PC: I am moderately happy with my long distance
PC: or, did you want to pick the something?
Me: lol
Me: no. here's the question:
Me: middle-aged southern californian men in pressed slacks and golf shirts: how can you tell the difference between "wealthy southern cali suburbanite" and "old queen"?
PC: politic answer: you can't! everyone poops...
Me: right, right.
PC: my answer: normally shoes, if socks match the shirt
PC: often car. often through jewelry.
Me: jewelry, check.
Me: i'll have to start checking out my neighbors' cars more closely
PC: old queens have a certain type of jewelry that tries to look young, but middle aged men often have a gold chain or an old high school ring or something
PC: I think though that this population you have stumbled across is very hard to tell: old queens have caught the peterpan syndrome as much as any gay man (unless they are in a committed relationship, and then the tend to "act their age") while middle-aged straight men are often going through a midlife thing.
Me: see? exactly. it's confusing.
Me: alas for the days of the earring code.
PC: as a result, they both act sort of desperate, immature, and solipsistic
Me: well, see, this is why i need to know. because if they're old queens, great: we'll get along like peas in a pod. but if they're middle-aged suburbanite straight guys, i don't want them to hit on me.
PC: you just can't tell by the bling and penis cars, you have to look for certain types of bling and penis cars. And, I'm not up on stuff enough to tell if a Land Rover is straight and Range Rover is gay gay gay.
PC: I go for broke gays.
Me: the two guys across the street (separate houses or i wouldn't be asking) both seem to drive older japanese cars
Me: see, i'm thinking old queens make good friends, b/c they have good booze.
PC: I never picked up on that before! hey, I have great booze? You are making me feel old.
PC: I have a subaru, so I'd like to say they are confident old queens, or married.
Me: i used to have great booze. i just mean money = the good stuff, you know?
Me: well, the one guy isn't married. the other guy from what i saw this morning either lives with a really butch woman, or with a kinda soft and dumpy man.
PC: subarus are not sexy. they are reliable and safe. the are for those who are confident to not drive a penis car, but are afraid of death.
PC: this means soccer moms, old women, and queens.
Me: subarus are sexy if you're a lesbian.
Me: I used to drive a subaru, darn it.
PC: soft dumpy man with japanese car already reminds me of my dad: might be a closet case, or religious, or both. In all cases, he's married to that woman, probably.
Me: if she's a woman.
PC: yeah, subarus are outdoorsy. Around here, if they are your primary car, see above. If they are your secondary car (often they are people's ski-weekend car, or Lake Tahoe car), then it just means you are rich.
Me: i think we're going to buy a prius. then i'm going to get a bumper sticker that says, "no really, i'm not a yuppie"
PC: Why don't you set up a test with your neighbors?
Me: ooh!
Me: such as?
PC: Invite them over for a drink in the backyard. Give them the choice of a beer, or a midori sour.
PC: Its cliche, I know. but its a nice standby that I use.
Me: lol
Me: good advice. but i'd have to buy midori. is there another drink that works? pimms, maybe?
PC: Not sure. My problem is that I often by a fancy beer, and when they go "Is that local microbrew a Heffeweisen?" I can't tell if they are one of these frat guys who are /way/ into beer, or a hip gay dude, or what.
Me: or just your average yuppie.
PC: yup. so, beware. there are multiple points of failure for these tests. Luckily, we have the same goals: if gay, then welcome. If not, subtly eject from house. Go buy some cheap ass beer.
PC: Also, find a game night, and invite him over while playing the dvd of Xanadu. If he gravitates towards the tv, he's a keeper. If he walks home with his cheap ass beer, let him go.